Previously banned members returning with alternate duplcoiate accounts

  • Couldn't really find any where else to bring this up, so I made a new discussion...
    Let's see who agrees with me as this is one of the biggest problems with this.
    
    here's a suggestion for you...
    with all due respect, consider getting your priorities in order before releasing a "new" site with a "new" design
    otherwise the same problems are going to resurface and continue being the same old problems as they always were
    i've already contributed to enough discussions on the "beta" site about what you should really be focusing on first
    look into improving the effectiveness of bans...
    still to this day i get stalked and harassed and spammed by previously banned users
    depending on offense and i suppose also known repeat offenders
    (and i could name so many as examples)... you should go further, like IP bans
    but not just single IP bans, block a whole range or whatever the proper networking term is
    even if people appear to be using VPN i'm sure there's ways to get around their attempts to get around our attempts
    anyway, ya know, just giving my advice if you actually do listen to people.
    not everyone is being negative... you asked for our advice, so consider taking it
    speaking of bans, again depending on the users in question and their records and history...
    when a large amount of evidence it presented, don't hesitate
    i understand it may vary on a specific case by case basis,
    but, you shouldn't question or second guess when you're shown plenty of evidence of offenses
    this is why Rayman1103 is probably one of the best staff members...
    he catches on to when someone's only looking for trouble
    and if someone's banned... they most likely deserved it. they shouldn't get any extra chances...
    again, especially depending on evidence presented.
    and if duplicate alternate accounts are caught and confirmed (hence my whole reasoning for this long discussion)...
    keep banning them until they get the point.
    if you truly want the "new" site and community to succeed...
    don't just simply try to cover up everything with a fancy new coat of paint
    begin with the foundation before you build on top of it,
    otherwise if it's weak it's all just going to collapse right in front of you. learn from your mistakes
    review feature and guest feature were prime examples
    but i believe we've already learned from those, so that's steps in the right direction... for now....
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  • I agree with you 100% Mr. Trunten.  And furthermore, Rayman1103 isn't just one of the best here he's also one of the best of Steam as well!
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  • thank you, Alfred.
    people are banned for a reason, especially if they already are repeat offenders with a long bad history and record.
    another thing is, even if they don't have multiple alternate accounts, they also return on their original main.
    what I said before still applies here, anyway...
    you present more than enough legit valid evidence of terms of service violations...
    but apparently the banned user(s) will privately contact the admins and complain.
    not going to name any names, but i had one person stalking me on very old maps and campaigns...
    they'd reply to equally as old, if not older, comments of mine... so this also is spam due to being notified...
    and then on top of that is the comments themselves are very immature and childish and harassment.
    user did eventually get banned, however, it feels like they also manipulated and intimidated the admins.
    another case where previously banned users got to return because they cried like a child to get their ways.
    anyone i report to the admins will always have proper evidence of violations worthy of bans.
    it should be very rare anyone is allowed to return considering what the offenses were.
    if it's not broke, don't fix it.
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  • Ryan, there was a time I probably wrote more reviews than anyone regarding Left 4 Dead 2 (330 or more if I remember right) and now I never review anything (and seldom comment too), all because of the trolls.  It is an Internet-wide problem- on Steam I've banned over 50 people and it is absurd I had to do that!
    
    As I said before I agree with you 100%, though I'm not sure I have any influence with "management" on fixing this issue or any other.   Nothing has been done about mod spamming using other people's work as a base (without permission probably too, given the sheer volume of mods.)  How big a problem is that?  Well, it gives people a reason to retire because their mods can end up flops (my last 10 were here, even though some of them were some of my best work), not become modders in the first place, or only put their mods on Steam even though I know I'm not the only one that doesn't like Steam.
    
    I'm glad to see you are still around this website given all the troubles you've had, making good suggestions.
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  • I 100% agree with this.
    I hate trying to pick a map on here for the reason of troll/toxic comments
    I always read comments to know if I should bother trying a map out
    now I don't mind negative comments as long as they're pointing out flaws and like tips on how to make a map/mod better
    but the toxic comments aren't creativity (the people leaving them will say that it is) 
    how is telling the uploader that he/she is a ************* and they should off themselves being "Creativity" 
    my point is I would like to look in the comments of a map/mod that I want to try without seeing troll/toxic comments. (and yes most of these are guest accounts so odds are they're people that know they can get away with it.)
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  • An administrator should ban this spamming *****.
    Really not looking forward to the new site at this rate.
    So many overlooked unresolved lingering issues.
    Get your priorities straightened out.
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