let me start by saying that this is a fun map.
but half the time I didn't know what to do or where to go.
also, the bots were not helping half the time because they kept trying to go into the water.
the intro also has a bad bug that makes your survivor stuck in a pose. (i don't know if it's for all the survivors as I only had this happened with Rochelle and no matter what I did she would stay in that pose until I had to kill myself.)
also, the horde triggers are in cheap/bad spots as this can discourage players from exploring less they or the bots trigger the horde, and last the finale is too confusing. when you start the finale it tells you to find the keys to the van and after two tanks (horribly spawn I might add.) it acts like you found them even if you never saw it.
I give it a 3 out of 5 the map can have its fun moments but horde triggers and a confusing finale can quickly make it unenjoyable.
I love this map it was so much fun to play.
there was a lot to take in and I love every bit of it
(that being the background, the skybox, the map sound effects, the panic events, etc)
play this map at least once you won't regret it.
this is a fun map and I do like the finale.
no cheap instakill areas.
no endless hordes.
bearly any trouble with the bots.
I give this a 4 out of 5 stars, although the hordes seem to pop up at random it's not endless.
easy or normal.
Let me start by saying this.
this was a fun map to play and I enjoy every minute of it.
I only have to complains (or nitpicks.) about this map.
1) on map one it's not clear where you have to go you might find the bomb first or the wall but won't know what to do.
it would be great if the area you need to go or the item you need to get was highlighted. but it doesn't take long to find it regardless.
2) the gate on the second map is so slow.
so you need to push all 4 buttons to get the chance to open the gate but the bar for opening it is so slow (even with Adrenaline and if you stop opening the gate to deal with a common or a special (or if a charger hit the wall near you) you have to start all over again.
the reason number too can be seen as a nitpick is cuz there's a great chance that you'll only see one charger.
but overall a great map.
I give it a 4 out of 5 stars despite the small problems it's still a great map to play.
Recommended Difficulty: Easy/Normal/Advance. (it all depends on how well you can handle yourself.)
also, it's a good idea to play with other people as the bots catch on the ledge too much or fall to their death to easily.
this map was fun and I enjoy every part of it.
there were a few times I wasn't sure what to do or where to go but the good heavily outweighs the bad.
I give this a 5 out of 5 stars while this map has a few flaws every good thing about it makes up for this.
Recommended Difficulty: normal/advance.
play with friends or by yourself
let me start by saying that I love this map.
and it was fun. (multi tanks notwithstanding.)
however, there is a glitch at the finale the rescue arrives after two blasts (not three) and if you loaded the gun you are stuck and forced to be incap (even if a tank smacks you away from the gun.)
overall I give it a 4 out of 5 stars. the map is fun but the finale being glitchy for someone who doesn't know any better is a turn-off.
i'm sorry you were made unaware by that glitch it's a shame too cuz this was fun to play and I had a good time but like a good game all it takes is one game breaking glitch to ruined it.
hopefully you can fix it.
I've had some complaints about that ending failing occasionally. So weird. I didn't make the ending but I'm going to look at it a bit harder to see if I can fix that problem. I love l4d2 but it's an old game now and sometimes you can have the best of intentions and stuff not work how you thought it was. I had fixed a problem with the ending that kept it from working correctly earlier. A small something that the original person overlooked. I'll double check it. sometimes when you look through enough stuff it starts to blur together. thanks f or letting me knowskers.
ok so I have been forgetting to rereview this map but now that I finally have the time let me go ahead do this.
first, the change to 3 maps from 4 maps was an excellent choice.
second, the second map where you had to get the mask to get back into the train I'm happy to say that's been fix.
the bots won't go into the next safe house till you get the mask.
and Lastly, the finale is so much better it feels more challenging without being annoying.
so this has gone from a 4 out of 5 to a 5 out of 5 stars.
the fix has made this map so much better and is so much fun to play people should play this at least once.
Recommended difficulties: advance/expert (this is so good that you're guaranteed to have a good time.)
ok, where do I even begin?
First of all, is there's still CI and SI which can get you killed.
second of all the spawns for the tank is bad I only got to map 2 cuz the tanks spawn at the panic event so you're pretty much hosed.
also killing the tanks does nothing cuz they spawn too fast.
this was done poorly in my book.
this map was fun but for me what killed it was a huge number of witches and tanks and the lack of much supplies.
it just got annoying switching to a tier 2 weapon only to switch to a tier 1 weapon just cuz there were no ammo piles.
and sorry but I don't mind traps on a map but not when the game makes it where you have to look for clues to get passed without dying and I'm sorry but that's hard to do when you're fighting SI or just CI.
I made it to map 3 before I had enough and that was after skipping map 2 cuz I died cuz I didn't look for more clues.
Do not play this map if you're not a big fan of stopping what you're doing to look for clues or fighting a lot of tanks and witches you will get tired/annoyed if that's the case.
I give it a 2 out of 5 stars if it was for the big number of tanks and witches and if the whole clues on how to get pass traps were done better this could been a great map
Every review is a diferent vision from the same thing. I'm not invaliding your opinion or your review. Also, i apreciate that you played, even if your experience was 'killed by the number of witches and tanks', but using this as argument, makes me see that some players, and when i say some i mean you, are comfortable with one or two tanks for map. I'm not comfortable with that and thats why i put so many tanks and witches on each map, becouse they works as barries at certains points, and if the player or the team dont know how to work together, then, all die, thats a fact. But, if you read the notes/diaries, you find out that many of the tanks can be avoided. Also, the witches can be avoided. I can put 100 witches on a map, but i surely will put a way so that the player can navigate without having to kill all witches. On the tanks side, i put a lot, a lot of molotovs. You put a tank on fire and thats it, you just have to wait he die. I just saying that this campaign was made to offer a new kind of gameplay. Everything that you pointed as a bad point, is in fact a new gameplay. No ammo piles. Use only scavenge weapons. TRAPS! Witches and tanks, at least 4 per level. This is not a fail on the design. This is what is supposed to be. But, as i said before, every point of view, is a diferent opinion.
yes i do but when i test a custom campagin there are 3 things i list.
1) how easy/hard it is to get to the next saferoom.
2) does the map required me to do something and how simple it is to do it.in the heat of battle with the undead.
3) is the map fair with supplies and SI spawns.
i base my reviews off those 3 i don't wrtie my reviews to offend anyone and i'm sorry if you feel that way but i write my experience as well as those 3 things off my mental checklist.
also if a map annoys me somehow then it'll effect how i see the map.
i want to make this clear i don't think this is a bad map in fact i have played worst but i can't call it the best map to play.
what i said in my review is what i experience.
i hope that has clear up and problems you have with my review but if not then i don't know what else to tell you.
I enjoy this map greatly there were no cheap kills and the finale was fun.
however, there were a few things that weren't fun like trying to cut the power to get into the safehouse since the horde never stops or in the map after that where you have to run there's nothing to tell you what way to go and you find yourself backtracking to make sure you didn't take a wrong turn.
but despite that, I give this a 4 out of 5 stars despite the annoying parts it's not enough to bring this map down.
Recommended Difficulties: normal (this map will kick your butt on anything higher unless you know what you're doing.
the upsides: the map looks great it looks like a prison great finale was good overall a great map to play.
The Downsides: the map is way too short, you don't get tier 1 weapons till you get to the safehouse and you don't get tier 2 weapons till you reach the finale, one panic event in the whole map and it was easy, for a Halloween map it didn't feel like one no spooky noises no Objects moving nothing.
I give this a 3 out of 5 stars the map is great in looks but that doesn't save it from the fact that it's too short.
Recommended difficulties: advance/expert (anything lower it's not a challenge and if you play smart you'll have some challenge.)
the upsides: it's fast pace it's a straight line and it's simply running from the horde to the saferoom.
the downsides: not many places to explore, some maps aren't straight lines so it's easy to not understand where to go.
the finale will spawn 4 tanks for some reason and most of the time they'll spawn too far away so they'll die to fast.
I give it a 4 out of 5 stars if the finale was a little better with the tank spawns then it be a little better.
Recommended difficulties: normal advance (the horde will spawn a lot to be on any higher than these two.)
upsides: a fun map to play through, great finale. little ways to get lost.
downsides: none (i couldn't find anything wrong with this map unlike before.)
I give it a 5 out of 5 stars a map worth playing over and over again by yourself or with friends
Recommended Difficulties: Normal Advance Expert (a fun map and one that can be challenging in a good way.)
It crashed because you didn't have the stuff required for it. That's my fault for not making it clearer how to get it. I'm not that bothered by the review, I just wanted to point it out. If you do play it again I hope you have a better experience with it.
This comment was posted before the latest release.
the one star isn't just cuz of the missing link it's cuz of the glitch intro and crashes when i play a map to review i give it a fair score i don't half ass it so if things like glitch intros or glitch finale make it hard or impossible to beat or even play i also take in account if the map makes the game crash and when it crashes i'm sorry if you don't like the rating i gave it but i don't hold back however i did said that i will give it another shot once the glitches and crashes are worked out. but til then i have to be truthful with how it was and for me the intro glitch and when i try playing from the second map i didn't get far til it crash me. if did crash on the second map then i would at least gave it 2 stars but since that's what happen i put one.
This comment was posted before the latest release.
I think it's a bit unfair to rate it one star because you couldn't find the download which is on the External Link/Mirror when you click download as is said in the description. I've put another link to the stuff you need to download for this map in the changelog.
This comment was posted before the latest release.
this was an amazing map if you play the normal Ravenholm maps before playing this you'll know where to go but even if you haven't you'll still enjoy it.
no cheap deaths or bugs and glitches and the bots never got stuck or left behind.
I gave this a 5 out of 5 stars this was a treat to play and I love the final as with was a survive til rescue arrives.
Recommended difficulty easy/Normal/Advance (this is a good map but only on the 3 difficulties unless you know every spawn point of SI and items.) play more than once.
this was a fun but also a very hard map I do love the different things this map have you do and the final was very fun to booth.
there was no cheap deaths and I always knew where to go you have to try very hard to get lost or not pay attention to your Surroundings the bots never got stuck. no bugs or glitches.
I gave this a 4 out of 5 the map was challenging but also fair and the final was a lot of fun.
Recommended difficulty Easy/Normal. (the maps is fun but if you're not paying attention to yourself or others it can be hard to deal with the horde.) play it at least once
a good and fun map.
there was no bugs or glitches the bots didn't have a hard time getting somewhere/
I give this a 4 out of 5 the map is fun with no cheap ways to die and tho there was a lot of annoying moments the fun parts out wight them.
Recommended difficulty: Easy/Normal (the maps are good and easy to get through but there still be a lot of times where hordes or tanks will come out.)
it wasn't always clear where to go so I got lost for a bit. (til I found where I needed to go by running around.)
there's a room with a statue and I ran backward trying to get away from a tank but when I went back to the room I found that the Globe was blocking the doorway (I had to spawn another tank just to move it.)
I give this a 1 out of 5 this isn't a good map to start with and you can get lost very easy or force to reset if something (like I said with the statue.) happens
Recommended Difficulty: Easy. (with the fact that you get lost very easy you'll be using a lot of ammo and taking a lot of damage.)
this is fun to play if you like a challenge but there are some point where it feels like you can't stand still for even a second and most of the time it feels like the map doesn't work for that.
the finale was ok but the bots have a hard time running behind you unless they teleport to you.
I give this a 3 out of 5 this map is fun but there are sometimes where it feels unfair.
Recommended Difficulty: Easy/Normal.
so I did have fun with the map but the bugs made it less enjoyable.
and was annoying to have to go back to the lobby to start it.
I'm going to have to give this 2 stars till the bugs get fixed. this only an ok map play it but be weary bugs.
this is a good map and fun to play but the bots don't always follow and it's not always clear where to go first-timers will wander around for a bit before finding the path to go but it's not that bad to the point where you'll get lost for hours.
I give it a 4 out of 5 stars the map might be confusing at times and the bots might be frustrating sometimes but it's a fun map to play at least once.
short,confusing and horde events almost everywhere
so this map is good but sometimes it's confusing on where you're supposed to go and it's short.
also, too many ways to alert the horde. now the good thing is there's no bugs or glitches (except with the radio to start the finale.) and the finale was good but
I give it 3 stars the map is good but with no clear way to know where to go and each map feels kinda short.
so I had so much with this map and how it handles it's self first of all for people who don't know how to deal with witches this map helps you understand how to take down a witch.
and I love the portal references.
also, the Big Scared was great I won't say anything to spoil it just check it out.
also, this map has 2 finales fight the final boss or escape
overall I give this map a 5 out of 5 this is a map I keep coming back to and I don't think I'll stop having fun with it
so I play this map 3 times.
twice on my own and once with my Big Brother we both had a lot of fun.
I do enjoy how the finale is handled and nothing felt cheap at all.
I can't wait for this to be updated plz keep up the good work.
and I give this a 5 out of 5 stars without a doubt this is a must play.
so this map was great to play I did get lost a few times but overall still fun.
that being said the low point was the finale it starts just fine and is still fun but when it comes time to escape the escape vehicle (which I'm guessing is a chopper.) doesn't show up and the door doesn't open no matter how many times you hit the switch I even look around to see if there was anything that I was supposed to do to open it and there was nothing and I even waited to see if it'll open if the chopper came but there was nothing well until I nocliped to the area and found that the chopper was Invisible and the bots didn't enter it.
all in all, I give it 3 stars cuz it was a fun map but since the finale was glitchy I didn't get to finish it,
this map was a blast to play and fun to go through no cheap deaths no unplayable levels very easy to understand
my only complain is that it is easy to get lost or not know where to go the only arrows I see on here is for puzzles and in the finale but this is minor at best.
overall great map great and while scavenging finales aren't my favorite it doesn't ask for many cans and the cans aren't hard to get to spots so it's forgiving in that regard.
a great map and one that should be played at least once.
so one of the things I notice was no medkits in the safehouse, in fact, you don't find any at all just pills and those are rare too a lot of tanks and witches and while the finale was alright (btw that and the start of map 1 is where medkits are.
the bots wouldn't enter the APC so I had to wait till they died to escape and all I got was a black screen no credits.
overall the atmosphere of the maps was great, no endless horde and no cheap kills.
but the bad out weights the good if these were fix or changes then this could be a great map but as it stands most who play by themselves or those who are looking for a causal map should not play this
I had a blast playing this there never a cheap placement or not a lot of weapons or ammo (i hate maps that do that that aren't survival maps) the Finale was good an open area great for fighting tanks.
the only thing that could be better is the Witch placements as most were around a corner or near the flames too much
overall this was a map to play and I'll be playing this a lot more
I love how everything looked and the different settings not going to lie I did get lost most of the time because I wasn't sure where to go but I still had fun with it.
my only Issue was the finale don't get me wrong I love the holdout til recuse arrives/race to the finish finales so I'll give you that,
but the placement of it was bad by the first tank one bots was dead when I was trying to get away from the cliff and when Recuse Arrive two more bots were taken down by the edge and this was on easy.
overall a great map good weapons placement and first aids placement no cheap one hit kills
play with Friends but play on normal ever in the finale.
this map shows a lot of promise and I like that the bots didn't do many dumb things there was a good amount of ammo and first aids the finale was alright.
the only thing I can say is don't play this in singleplayer it can get bored and while it is hard it's not cheap hard.
overall a good map to play with friends but not so good if you play by yourself.
this is a very creepy map and I felt tense all the way till the finale this is great for making you feel like whats around the corner not make is too different but also not much is the same from No Mercy.
my only issue I had was one of the bots got stuck on the ladder in the finale to the rooftop.
but I still enjoy it and I feel like I'm going to play it when I want to play a map that makes me tense.
I love how this map looks very well done as well as very simple no cheap placement of tanks or witches horde isn't overused or overwhelming the only Issues are like it has been pointed out the bots not always picking up health kits and also it's a little too easy to know where to go or what to do because there's nothing to tell you to go this way or that way.
but overall this is a great map to play with others or by yourself.
so I play this map last night I had a good time no trouble with bots I didn't run into a time where I need first aid pills/shoots and ammo or guns and couldn't find them the spawn rates or tanks and witches were fair and Hordes were also very fair.
my only issue is the finale where u have to fight your way past 3 hordes and 2 tanks only to find the place where the finale is to start it.
but overall a good map and one I'm 100% sure I'll be playing more often