25 to life has a map that is the same way. It is an incomplete nav map. If it doesn't have an escape route (nav) on it the zombies don't spawn worth a hootie and the blowfish.

they only wanna be with you

Doesn't look like Herby fixed anything. Although if you look at the change notes, crashing fixed in 2015 is fixed again. Mostly, it's a port of the original L4D campaign that had 4 maps. The one for L4D2 I have has three. I have the original L4D campaign, and will play to see what herby has done. Most likely increased to hordes. Last play through I did on this one had a Tank spawn right in front of me in a room with no tank. The panel in map 2 to activate the bridge is not lit up. We will see...

Downloading the one by finalhour10000 now for comparison. Only textures missing in the original L4D one are three textures after you break a window. Three that I could find.

Yeah, three available. PA 2 (finalhour10000, the on I have), and PA ll (Herby). My guess is he fixed his original upload and renamed it, and added L4D characters. Not sure if PA ll has all four original maps. I never down loaded that one.

this is simply the version from the first Left 4 Dead which apparently had a different number of maps (chapters). and apparently the infamous string table issue so people can join past the lobby. often overlooked by many map authors. though I never had any crashing, so I'll give ya that one

"increased hordes". ah this old argument again. it's actually just an unintended side effect of l4d1 maps going into l4d2, no one specific person's fault. even happens with "Time Lord Magnum Dave's" stuff, but I believe he actually knows how to remedy it if you mention it. i think it's little differences in how the A.I. Director is in L4D2 compared to the first, but I might be wrong.

Well, to be honest T, I have no argument as far as the horde increase goes. I just mentioned it. And thank you for mentioning that it can be fixed, which is why I just mentioned it. There was no argument there, just an observation.

that is, if we're thinking of the same thing. like I said, I could be wrong. Dave would have to chime in.

I play alone all the time so I don't notice if others can't join. As for missing textures, I don't worry too much about that either. Unless of course it's not playable I just concern myself with game play. It's gotten to the point where if I see his name attached to something, even if it was broken before, I don't download it because I have no faith in his work. Does he ever get it right?